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Debunking Drip Sauce – Bleach Edition



¿Nuevo Invento Debunking Drip Salsa – Edición de Aclaración: ¡¿Cómo podría acontecer lo contrario!? ¡La Salsa de Aclaración acabó con las Utopías de la Limpieza!

¿Qué es la Salsa de Aclaración – Edición de Aclaración? ¡Es un fresco e insertivo nuevo invento hecho para desm处allo todas las falsas creencias sobre la limpieza! ¡No crees que la limpieza sea todas oscuras, silenciosas, y ¡pie etiqueta! Esta salsa está aquí para romper ese mito!

¿Cómo funciona la Salsa de Aclaración – Edición de Aclaración? Su misión: destruir las zonas de las falsas creencias de los que creen que el aclarador de la limpieza, los coches de la limpieza, las ropas de la limpieza, son aquello que nos limpiamos. ¡Este nuevo invento contagioso? Sí, ancla! ¡Es aquí para desmatar el mundo de la DIY LIE!

¿Qué conecta esta Salsa de Aclaración con el Bleach Edition? Mas una invitación a las conversaciones sobre el bleach! ¡Este es otro paso en la Dirección del ¡¡¡DIY Limpieza Leyenda Destruida!! ¡Se trabaja en más adaptaciones!(¿No crees que el bleach sea un detergent? ¡Albricias, pues no sea así! El verano de 2021 nos concita a superar las creencias de aclaración y spa!s!

¡Porque no también tratar de agregar tabla manta abierta a esta conversación! Siempre hay más que hacer para desmatar el éxito de las falsas creencias y engaños sobre la limpieza. Pues sí, ¡seguimos!

¡Ahora no creemos que otros inventos puedan destruir las leyendas bleach! El ha sido demostrado y proven que es todo lo que decimos! #nuevoinvento #salsadeachar #ediciondeachar #alejandrinaglercbois #alejandro #jlcreative #synova #lista #muslibike #web20 #allegories #storytelling #mediathought #socialaction


Referring to this "Most Accurate, Quintessential & Undebunkable" Scale

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#1- Ichigo blocking the Sokyoku, Yama’s Bankai

To begin, No one in the History of Powerscaling uses this feat for Scaling Ichigo lol, considering the vagueness surrounding it, which you yourself explained in the video.

Also the fact that this feat is performed so Early in the Series & implications that Start of Series Ichigo is already blocking Planetary Attacks contradicts the Narrative of the whole story itself.

Now, Soul Society is something that is used to refer to 2 things, depending on the context of the story.

It is used to refer to the Planet where Shingamis live & it is also used to refer to the Realm/Universe where the Main Planet lies.

The context where “Soul Society” is used needs to be understood each time where it's used.

Just to explain this, Yamamoto’s Bankai was stated to “destroy the Soul Society”.

Now if you have some reading comprehension & have actually read the Manga, you'd understand that Words like “Burn Soul Society to Ground”, "Water of Soul Society is evaporating" are used in the Manga Chapter clearly refers to Soul Society the Planet here, not the entire Realm.

When Soul Society refers to the entire Realm/Universe?

Yhwach going to destroy & reconstruct the 3 Realms by Absorbing the Soul King’s Power.

Now I'd like to add a Counterargument here.

If Soul Society only refers to the Planet & not the entire Realm/Universe, then after Yhwach stole Yama’s Bankai 100 Chapters before EOS, same Bankai which had the power to destroy Soul Society Planet by just existing, that would've been enough to destroy the “Planets” & accomplish Yhwach's goal.

But no, that wasn't enough, not even close.

Yhwach had to Absorb the Lynchpin Soul King who was passively preventing the Collapse of the Universes by his mere Existence +had to Absorb Soul King’s Heart (Gerard) & Right Hand (Mimihagi) too + had to Steal 2/3rd of Ichigo’s Powers +had to Steal Almost All of the Sternritters Powers.

Now, using this Novel Scan to disprove Aizen.

Lmao, so the Novels are valid for you when you have to debunk shit & for the other things, they're not even canon?

Because the Novels too disprove your argument, “If” Soul Society & World of Living could be likened Planets, then Void of Space that surrounds them is Garganta.

Reminds me of something?

If the Universes are likened to Planets, Void of Space that surrounds them is Garganta.

(Also Garganta is not Outer Space or One Universe, all of the Universes have their individual Outer Spaces/Universes, which I'll expand on later)

#2 – Bleach is not a Multiverse

He used this Scan

Cool thing bro, because Parallel Worlds in fiction is literally used to describe Alternate Universes.

Next thing he stated is that to prove these are referring to the Universes themselves & not the Planets, you'd have to prove that Alien Life or Life Beyond Earth exists in those Universes.

That's not necessary but okay bro. Astronauts & Space Travel is already a well established concept in the Living World, considering it's very well stated & shown to mirror our Real Universe.

Additionally, Orihime while she's in the Living World is also seen studying an Enclyopedia of Stars, which further confirms the vast expanse of the Living Universe/Real Universe.

I'm inclined to show the Manga & the Anime depicting Galaxies, Infinite Universes, Infinite Sized 3-D Spaces in Soul Society Realm right now but hold on that, cause this much is enough to debunk your notion of “Planetary” Worlds.

Next he used is this Movie Clip (Anime only Scenes that didn't happen in the Manga, but aight, just remember all of this, don't come crying at me when I use these same “Sources” too)

If you've actually watched the Movie instead of copypasting “Top 10 Bleach Debunks” from Comicvine, & instead of cropping out of context scans from the movie, in the next line you'd know that Toshiro refuses to directly address the Realms as Planets/Stars (Hoshi), but uses it in a Metaphorical way.

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Once again, just like the CFYOW Scan, planets are used as a metaphor when explaining complex matter and making it easier to understand by using metaphors the characters can actually comprehend.

Next is this Scan (Mayuri’s Monitor)

The Worlds closing in in the Garganta (The Garganta is the Space between the Worlds & also encompasses them)

Now there are only 2 Interpretations of this, as far as we know-

1-This image generated on Mayuri’s Monitor is likely just a representation of the Realms in a Metaphorical Sense & not the actual Realms, which we've actually seen done plenty of times in the Movie itself, the Realms being simplified to Planets.

2- These are the actual Realms themselves.

Though the 1st point is what the movie is suggesting, I'd like to tackle the 2nd point too.

While the Realms are closing in, we see that No Asteroids, Stars could be seen in the Background of the Garganta/Space where they're colliding.

Why is that?

Frankly because the Garganta is not Outer Space.

We see Gremmy creating/opening a Void of Outer Space with Countless Stars & an irregular Galaxy in the Soul Society Realm, & from that moment we come to know that Shingamis can't breathe in Outer Space & would die in it.

Yet Ichigo could easily breathe in the Garganta as well as run in it.

Coupled with the fact that Stars & Galaxies do not exist in the Garganta, but do exist in the individual Realms. (All of the Anime Scenes are Canon too)

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The Garganta is simply a Void that encompasses the Realms/Universes & everything else.

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Official Manga Cosmology Map with the Two Cubes being the 2 Main Realms/2 Universes of the Living World & the Afterlife.

(Not really needed here but the Realms of Bleach are identical to NASA’s Representation of Universes & the Multiverse according to Brane Cosmology)

Leaving all this aside, we're told in the Movie itself by Kisuke Urahara, the most knowledgeable character in the Series that the Planets of Soul Society & World of Living are in different, separate Realms/Dimensions.

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And those Spheres are the Dimensions/Realms/Universes themselves that are closing in in the Garganta.

Next is this Scan he used

As already iterated that Soul Society & World of Living are used interchangeably for both the Planets & the Universes in which they are, depending on the context.

Here they're referring to the Planets only, as we see in this next scan too.

Apart from the Realms/Universes closing in, Gravity is also created & is pulling the Planets together, as we see a Tunnel form connecting Karakura Town & Seiretei.

#3 – Valley of Screams

Already debunked the notion of the Realms just being the Planets, so this is irrelevant here.

#4- Ichigo & Aizen impressed over destroying a Mountain, Ulquiorra Building Level, Las Noches Country Level

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The reason Ichigo Erasing & Vaporizing Mountains by just flexing his sword is considered impressive is because that isn't using any Reiatsu, but pure sheer Physical Strength.

No Ki Enhanced Attack, No Reiatsu Enhanced Attack, just Pure Physicality.

You still don't get it? Aight let me explain in your language.

SSJ Vegeta (Universe 6 Saga) struggling & unable to physically lift 1000 tons

Dangai Ichigo casually flicking his Sword using his Physical Strength & vaporizing the top of a Mountain

He said that Las Noches is not that big if we go by visual representation of it & if the author really wanted it to be bigger, it would be bigger.

That's precisely not how it works. Mere Visual Representations are not the best way to interpret the size of certain things. Let me explain you in your language.

Heaven in DB is as wide as the universe & is a field full of flowers according to databooks.

This is what we "visually" see of it

You get the gist.

Using several different calcs & all sorts of proofs, Las Noches size has been calculated to be consistently 229 Kilometres in Diameter.

And Ulquiorra's single Lanza Del Rampangos Attacks were literally dwarfing Las Noches in size, with each one of them capable of Vaporizing the sands of the Hueco Mundo Planet (Multi-Continental Level DC)

#5- Hell isn’t a Multiverse

Another futile point where he blatantly lied. But let's see

First of all Hell doesn't exist within the Bleach Multiverse, it's a separate Construct that existed even before the Soul King.

Kubo drew an Official Sketch for Hellverse.(Do note the Highlighted word)

Hell is blatantly a Multiverse based word-by-word for Many-Worlds Interpretation.

However, the most interesting thing to note here is that the Universes in Hell are in a hierarchical layer order/ following a Hierarchy.(A Universe being Higher than the other, & the Hierarchy continues)

That means Hell would be a Multiverse of Universes following a Hierarchical Order, which can be anywhere from Low 1-C to 1-B, depending on how many Universes it has (with each Higher than the other)

VL Ichigo however, didn't destroy any Multiverses in Hellverse, he only broke the Gates of Hell, so this isn't a Multiversal feat, but Hell as a Construct is certainely Higher Dimensional. (Which we might see Ichigo scale to in The New Hell Arc)

#6- Gremmy creating Galaxies doesn't scale him to that, 2 Gremmy Meteor, how can 7 Gremmy create Galaxy

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Why was everyone afraid of Dying from the Meteor?

If you actually read the Manga, you'd notice that the only Characters "afraid of dying"are fodder normal level Shinigamis.

The high tiers are panicking because

1- The entire surface of the Planet is going to be wiped. Most of the High Tiers (like Askin, Jugram) at this point in the Storyline weren’t even Planet Level.

2- Meanwhile Yhwach is not even flinching from his place from his place (This kind of even solidifies his Planet+ AP in Base, as he has already stolen Yama’s Bankai)

BUT In order to create a meteor that would obliterate Sereitei, Gremmy needed another clone of himself to double his power. The meteor feat has been usually calced around Multi-Continental. If Gremmy truly was 1/7 Galaxy Level, there would be no need for him to create doubles?

First things first, Gremmy’s Clones don't increase his “Power” as in a conventional AP, Durability, etc sense. It increases his very “Power of Imagination” by as many times as the number of clones he creates.

Now the entire problem of "2 created Meteor, 7 created Galaxy” solely arises because you believe that something like “Imagination” is linear.

With 2 Clones he created a Meteor & with 7 Clones straight up a Galaxy-encompassing Outer Space, both are perfectly valid here here because the Power of Imagination is not something Linear or arbitrary like you're trying to make it to be, it's something that, if you imagine (pun intended), beyond Exponential.

That's why Gremmy with 2 Clones/Double his Power of Imagination creating a Meteor & with 7 Clones/Seven Times his Power of Imagination creating a Galaxy encompassing Void are both completely valid, because something as Abstract as “Imagination” isn't a linear multiplier, it can be Exponential, it can be Beyond Exponential, that is the very point of “Imagination”.

But Creation =/= AP

That is assuming you take time (specifically long time) to create something.

I can create a Building if you give me 100 days, but that doesn't mean I have anything close to Building Level Attack Potency, because –

1- It takes a long amounts of time to even make it

2- It just isn't Combat Applicable

Does this apply to Gremmy? Hell No.

Gremmy can instantaneously create things in immediate Reality. Infact, the Outer Space he conjured during his fight with Kenpachi was nigh-instantaneous.

For example, someone like Mr Mxy can create whole Multiverses instantly in his fights, making his Hax actually scaling to his Attacking Capability.

So in case of Someone like Gremmy, who can create everything he imagines instantly & also use those Creations in Combat, Hax does scale to his AP.

Does Creation Hax scale to Durability?

Simple Answer is No.

Just because someone is able to create & Attack using Galaxies doesn’t mean he can straight up tank Galaxies to his face.

But, but, that'd be if Gremmy only had Creation Ability.

Gremmy is inherently a High Level Reality Warper, & is able to make his body & Durability as hard as he imagines it to be.

That means if Gremmy actually imagines himself to have body Strength than can tank Galaxies, he can Warp that into Immediate Reality too.

So does Gremmy actually have Galaxy Level AP & Durability? And Kenpachi too?

The thing is, Yes, Gremmy did create the Galaxy encompassing Void, but he actually didn't Attack Kenapchi with Galaxies, he simply BFRed him into Outer Space to Kill him.

So while Gremmy can create Galaxies & possibly use them in AP (Considering his Reality Manipulating & Subjective Reality Creation Abilites), he hasn't actually demonstrated to do so.

So No, Gremmy & Shikai Kenpachi don't scale to Galaxy+ Level because of this, because no Galaxy was involved in the fight.

#7- BUT Muken is not Infinite

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Said by who? That’s right, the 13 Blades Fanbook.

The thing is, the 13 Blades Fanbook is neither an Official Source/Databook & on top of that is a wildy inaccurate & unreliable source.

It's an inaccurate & unreliable source- It has several incorrect things, just for an example, it states that Rangiku has a Bankai, even when she doesn't.

Most Importantly, it's a completely unofficial fanbook that is not written or authorized by Kubo.

All the 3 Official Databooks (Databook Souls, Databook Masked & Databook Unmasked) had letters of authenticity from Kubo himself stating that he had written them.

The 13 Blades Fanbook does not have any such letter of authenticity, meaning Kubo didn't even write it nor is involved with it.

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Additionally the New Latest TYBW Anime, which Kubo himself described as his “second shot to fix the Manga”, blatantly calls Muken an “Infintely Large Space” which pretty much retconned any remaining misconceptions & further confirmed that Muken is Infinite in size.

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Hueco Mundo however is definitely not Infinite

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“Endless white desert covers the ground” obviously the use of Endless here only describes the Hueco Mundo Planet’s Surface & not the entire Realm’s size.

#8- There is only one Universe in Bleach

Already debunked in above paras but will debunk again.

There was a a single primordial world, a singularity where the Concepts of Life & Death were intertwined.

Prime Soul King transcended the Cosmology & established the Current State of the World.

PSK split the Old Primordial World, which is much, much bigger than a standard Universe, into 3 Universes & created the Higher Dimensional Boundaries of the Dangai & the Garganta to completely separate them .

We have visual proof & statements of At Least 2 Realms being Universes (Soul Society Realm & Living Realm), with Hueco Mundo Realm only reaching Universal via being relative in size to them.

Ichigo directly calls the Living Universe an Infinite Universe

The Soul Society is an Alternate Reality to the Living Universe, Alternate Realites to Universes are also Universal in size.

#9- Yhwach doesn't scale to Multiversal

He again was incorrect here but not completely.

It's true that the Universes were going to collapse & merge into one due to removal of the Dinensional Boundaries of the Dangai & Garganta due the Death of the Soul King, so this is not a feat of Strength for Yhwach, but Environmental Destruction.

However, Clown Sauce again didn't give the full information & took things out of context.

It's verbatim stated & shown multiple times in the Manga that the Weakened Soul King prevents the Universes from collapsing by preventing the Destruction of the Dimensional Boundaries that separate them, all by his mere existence.

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Yhwach Absorbed him completely & gained ALL of his power.

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Yhwach scales to Multiversal in the Manga solely via Absorbing all of the Soul King’s Power/Reiatsu, which was enough to passively prevent the destruction of the Dimensional Boundaries of the Dangai & the Garganta that spatio-temporally separates the 3 Universal Realms of Bleach.

However, this isn't even close to the best feat or scaling in Bleach, which Fodder Sauce knowingly didn't mention in his “Quintessential & most accurate scale”, which I'll be discussing in the end.

#10- Higher Dimensional Existence Aizen

This one is the only thing he got remotely close to correct in the whole video.

Aizen being Transcendental to Shingamis doesn't refer to his Existence being Transcendental, but his Reiatsu/Ki being Transcendental or God Like, Far Higher than any other Shinigami or Hollow.

Ichigo in his Mugetsu Form evolves to an even Higher Form of Transcendence.

The Actual Scaling

The Actual unequivocal & irrefutable Multiversal Scaling for Bleach comes from Squad 0′s Feat in the New TYBW Anime.

The latest promotional material for the CFYOW Novel directly confirms that Soul Society, Hueco Mundo & Living are the 3 Realms of Existence (Basically what we already know, I told you already in the above explanations)

Senjumaru shook Everything in the Cosmology, 三界 天地 ,the 3 Tenchi / 3 Realms of Existence / 3 Universes due to side effects of unleashing her true power.

(The best thing about this Feat is that there is no Sekai/World vagueness here, it's clear cut the Kanji for 3 Cosmos/3 Universes, which is why I think Clown Sauce refrained from touching this Feat)

The Shockwaves of her Reiatsu were felt in all the 3 Realms – the 2 main Sekai/Planets & also in Reiokyu which is, at a massive lowball, Billions of Kilometres away from the Soul Society Planet, with the Universes being separate space-time contiuums separated by Spatio-Temporal Barriers ( Dangai & Garganta ) where 3-D Movement isn't applicable.

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And this is just a byproduct of her unleashing her true power, this is not even her full power.

On top of this, she's still holding back trying not to do destroy the Universes.

4th Fusion Aizen already Transcended/Evolved to a Power that exceeded beyond all Shingamis (which would include Senjumaru/Squad 0)

And Ichigo one shotted & ragdolled that Aizen, evolving to an Strength so far beyond Aizen that he thought Ichigo had reach an entire Plane of Existence higher than him.

And True Shikai Ichigo which fought on equal footing with Yhwach, was stated to be equal to the form that One Shotted Aizen.

And Horn of Salvation is a 5×-10× Multiplier above that, & True Bankai is another minimum 5×-10× Multiplier above that.

Conclusion

Bleach has very concrete scaling for Multiversal (Higher with Higher Dimensional Constructs & Additional Temporal Dimensions), which he made a whole ass video tryna debunk it, & still couldn't blemish.

Clown Sauce taking almost everything out of context & trying to debunk DC Comics & Bleach, only to get effortlessly slammed, everytime.

Overall, shit debunk from a shit creator, nothing new.

I'm leaving the Speed debunk to any of you guys, cause it's so ass that anyone with even basic knowledge of the Series can debunk that. Goodluck


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